74th St-Roosevelt transfer: do you use the rear-car staircase to skip the crowd?
#1

I’m convinced most people transfer at 74th St-Roosevelt all wrong. My daily commute is a Queens-bound E to a Flushing-bound 7, and for months I took the first staircase up from the middle of the E platform, then walked along the mezzanine with the crowd, then got funneled down a packed staircase to the 7. Last year I started riding the last car of the E instead. There’s a staircase at the far end of the platform that comes up by the bus maps on the Roosevelt Ave side. It puts you right next to the down staircase for the front of the Flushing-bound 7. That platform end is much less mobbed, and because it’s the front car, you have a real chance at a seat before the train fills up at Junction Blvd.

For the reverse trip, I’m less consistent. Coming off a Manhattan-bound F or R and going to a Manhattan-bound 7, I tend to use the central stairs because they drop me on the 7 platform near the exit I need at Queensboro Plaza. But I think the crowd there cancels out any saved time. I’d be curious if anyone has a more reliable path for the E/F/R to 7 at rush hour. Also, do people actually use the elevator here? I’ve never seen anyone do it without looking like they regret it.

#2

Your rear-car E tip is right, but it depends on which direction you’re coming from. I’ve timed this station for years, mostly after the late-night construction mess made me paranoid about missing connections. If you’re on a Queens-bound F or R and need the Manhattan-bound 7, the rear-car logic flips. I stay in the last car of the F/R, then take the westernmost staircase up from the Roosevelt Ave platform. It’s the one that looks like it goes to the bus stop, but it curves back into the mezzanine before you reach the exit. It deposits you near the far end of the Manhattan-bound 7 platform, which is less crowded than the center.

The central stairs by the big token booth are almost never the best move during rush unless you’re transferring from the 7 to an E/F because you’ll be walking against the flow. The one exception I’d make is when it’s pouring rain and everyone’s using the east entrance: the middle stairs actually stay clearer because people crowd near the street exits. Caveat: after 3 p.m., the high-school wave from the Q32/Q33 can make the northern mezzanine a disaster no matter which staircase you pick. If you're doing 7 to R, the back of the R platform is much, much better than the front, especially if you want to exit at Queens Plaza or Steinway.

#3

I just moved near Jackson Heights and had no idea there were faster staircases! I always follow the crowd and end up on the wrong side of the 7 platform. Do the staircases have good signs or is this a trial-and-error thing? I’m mainly worried about taking a wrong turn and ending up outside on Roosevelt Ave, because I don’t want to have to tap my OMNY again just to get back in. Also, is it worth trying to learn this off-peak before I attempt it at 8:30 a.m.?

#4

firstwinter: no, you won't have to tap again as long as you stay within the fare zone. All the staircases I'm talking about stay inside the paid area, except the ones marked with green street-exit signs. The signs do exist but they're not great: they say '7' with an arrow, or 'E F M R' with an arrow, but because the complex is one long mezzanine, people get turned around. Start with the rear-car tip on the E and just follow the flow for that one staircase. Once you're on the mezzanine, stay to the side of the walkway so you can read the overhead signs before committing.

Yes, absolutely learn it off-peak first. A Sunday afternoon or late evening is perfect because most staircases are open but not packed. If you do accidentally go through an exit, you'll know because there's a turnstile and a green/red indicator, and yes, you'd have to tap again. So if you see daylight or a bus map in a window, stop before the turnstile. The only caveat is after about 11 p.m., the MTA sometimes closes certain entrances, but the transfer paths inside stay open.

#5

Honestly people treat 74th like it’s some secret maze. You’re going up or down one level. I’ve lived off 75th St for years. The only thing that actually matters is not using the staircase right by the fruit stand exit unless you want to get stuck behind someone dragging four bags and a juice cup. For the 7 to R, just walk towards the back of the R platform. For a Mets game, forget stairwell science; the whole block gets turned into a line, and you’re just moving with the wave. Keep your bag in front, headphones off, and you’ll live.

#6

YES. This is my station and I have OPINIONS. The real hidden gem is the staircase at the far western end of the Roosevelt Ave side! It’s right by the unmarked emergency exit that never has anyone in front of it, and it drops you almost directly onto the E/F platform’s last car. If you need the R, it skips the entire center platform jam that forms by the main staircase. I once timed it: from the front door of a 7 train to the R train doors in under two minutes, while a friend using the central stairs missed the same R. Everyone funnels to the big central stairs because the signs push them there, but that is the slowest possible path at rush hour!

Also, have you tried the stair set by the old bus map near the Q32? It looks like it dead-ends, but it actually curves into the mezzanine and comes out right by the Manhattan-bound F’s first car. The tile color changes from beige to that weird gray and it confuses people, so it’s almost always empty. If anyone says all stairs are the same, they’re just wrong. The difference between the center stairs and the end stairs can be two or three minutes, which is huge for an E train that runs every ten minutes at off times.

#7

I started a new job in LIC and transfer at 74th every day. This thread is making me realize I’ve been doing the follow-the-crowd thing and ending up at the back of the Flushing-bound 7, always standing. I’m going to try the rear-car E move tomorrow. Quick question: when you come up from the E at that far end, do you have to walk through the little hallway where the bus maps are? I got turned around there once and ended up near the Q32 stop. Also, do you trust the countdown clock on the mezzanine or the ones on the 7 platform? The mezzanine one always seems behind.