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Okay, can someone explain the Queensboro Plaza PM rush hold to me? I get on the N at Broadway/31st Street headed to Manhattan. Around 5:45 pm, we creep into Queensboro Plaza, stop, and the doors just stay shut while the 7 train opens and closes. Then we sit for another 45 seconds. The conductor comes on once in a while and says 'we have signal ahead.' Is this an actual signal thing, or is the dispatcher just parking us so the 7 can clear the switch first? It feels like it got worse after the last service change. I've timed it! Three days in a row: 70 seconds, 85 seconds, and one day two full minutes!
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Yeah that's QBP being QBP. The N/W and 7 share the same interlocking right there and the tower holds the first train until the second clears. Been that way forever, but it comes in waves when they mess with the 7 express schedule. You're not crazy, two minutes is annoying but not rare. If you're heading to Lex/59th, just stay on and zone out. If you're really tight, catch the 7 at Court Square instead.
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Wait, I'm new to Astoria and this scared me the first time. I thought I was on the wrong train or the doors were broken. Why don't they just open the doors and let people transfer? That seems like the whole point of the station. Is the platform too crowded at that hour? Thanks for posting this, I feel less crazy.
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They hold to keep the merge from turning into a two-train knot. If they open the N doors, everyone sprints across to the 7, but the 7 is already pulling out, so you get a stampede for nothing. Tower usually gives the 7 priority because it's entering the same pocket. Route hack: stand at the front of the N/W, not the rear, if you're trying to grab the 7. The front doors end up closer to the stairs at the Manhattan-bound platform.
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Flatbush_Fi, that tower bit is exactly what I wanted to know! I've always wondered if it was a human dispatcher up there or just automatic signal timers. I watched from the front window once and the signal at the east end of the platform stayed red until the Flushing train cleared the switch. Have you tried getting off at 39th Ave and walking over to Queensboro Plaza if you need the 7? I did it last Tuesday and beat the same N by four minutes!
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39th Ave to QBP is a decent little walk, but if it's raining, nah. I'd rather sit on the N and check what's ahead. Honestly, the bigger trick is just take the 7 local one stop to 33rd or 61st if you need to switch direction, but that's overkill for a 90-second hold. Don't get off at 36th Ave thinking it's faster, that's a trap.
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Update: I tried standing in the front car like SoHo_S said and it made the transfer way easier. We still held for maybe 40 seconds, but I got from the N to the 7 without having to run. My question is what happens when the 7 comes first? Does the N/W ever hold outside the station before the platform? I think I felt that this morning.
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Yes, they hold the N/W on the ramp before the station sometimes, especially if a 7 express is running late and they want to clear the platform. You'll see the train crawl or stop just before the switch. If you're on the 7 and need the N/W, don't stand by the last car; the transfer to the Astoria side is quicker from the middle.
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This is the good stuff. I've started checking the MTA app for the 7 express arrows before I leave. If there's a 7 express right behind the local at QBP, the N/W is almost always held because the express has to get through the interlocking first! It's not random! I also noticed the south end of the platform is where the conductor opens the first door after the hold, so if you're running from the stairs, don't wait at the yellow tactile strip, walk toward the rear of the train! Has anyone tried the Hunters Point Ave alternative when the 7 is a mess?
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Hunters Point is fine if you're already closer to the water, but from Astoria that's a long way to go just to avoid a hold. I'd only do it if the 7 train is actually screwed. The real issue at QBP is that there's no escape once you're on the platform, one escalator, one little staircase, and all of Queens trying to cross. So yeah, front car, then straight to the stairs, no stopping for phone photos.
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Thanks everyone. I did the front-car move again this evening: N from Astoria Blvd, held at QBP for about a minute, got the 7 to 42nd with time to spare. I also learned that if the platform is packed, the Manhattan-bound stairwell by the front of the train is the one you want. This thread probably saved me five minutes a day.
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